It
Will Take a Workers Revolution to Free Gays & Lesbians!
An
Interview with Wolf Larsen
from the book Capitalism Sucks!
Question:
Why do you say it will take a workers revolution to free gays and lesbians?
Answer:
It's obvious. Both political parties are hostile to gays
and lesbians! Gays and lesbians are
discriminated against in every aspect of life.
Even if one day the government recognizes the right of gays and lesbians
to marry homosexuals will still be discriminated against in everyday life. There needs to be a fundamental huge change! We need to take this society and throw it in
the garbage can and begin a new society so that everyone will be free – including
gays and lesbians.
Q.
I don't understand. Why do you say we
need to throw our society in the garbage can?
A. The society that we live under was founded by
the Puritans. It is still a thoroughly
puritanical society. America is the most
religious of all the first world countries.
Nothing more than a great big change will make it possible for gays and
lesbians to be free.
Q.
I disagree. Why not reform the system to
bring rights to gays and lesbians?
A. Homosexuals have been trying to reform the
system for ages! It hasn't worked! Gays and lesbians are still at the margins of
society. They currently don't even have the
right to marry. Even if they acquire the
right to marry they will still face widespread discrimination everywhere. We need a new government. A government that will not tolerate
discrimination against anyone – regardless of their sexual preference, race,
gender, and national origin, religion or lack of, etc. We need a government firmly committed to
equality for all! When I say equality
for all I don't mean we're all going to make the same money – people will be
paid according to their work – when I speak of equality I mean that everyone
must have the same rights and those rights must be a reality in everyday life,
not just pretty words on some piece of paper.
Q.
I see. But what about the Democratic
Party? Won't the Democrats eventually
bring about gay rights?
A. I doubt it.
The Democrats haven't even brought women's rights, let alone gay
rights. Look at the rotten record of the
Democrats on women's issues. Democrats
haven't even brought equal pay for equal work, although there was a lot of talk
about that some time ago, but it was just talk and no action. Even if they passed an equal pay for equal
work legislation for women the government probably wouldn't even bother
enforcing it. Women don't even have free
quality child care. And women's rights
to an abortion are being slowly whittled away.
If this society can't even bring women's equality how is this society
going to bring about gay equality? In this
society gays and lesbians are even more vilified than women! So if this society can't bring about women's
equality I really doubt it can bring about gay equality. You have to throw capitalism in the garbage
can. And that's all there is to it.
Q.
You propose a workers revolution in order to throw capitalism in the garbage
and build a new society. But wasn't the
Soviet Union homophobic as well?
A. In the beginning the Soviet Union was very
much for the rights of gays and lesbians.
The Soviet Union was the first country to take anti-sodomy laws off the
books. As you probably know anti-sodomy
laws are used to persecute homosexuals.
Anyway, the Soviet Union took the anti-sodomy laws off the books back in
1919. And now in the 21st century I
understand that there are still some states in the USA that have anti-sodomy
laws on the books. However, the Soviet
Union became homophobic under Stalin and the Stalinist bureaucracy. Virtually all Stalinist groups are hostile to
homosexuals. However, Trotskyists, on
the other hand, are completely different.
Trotskyists defend gay rights! Leon
Trotsky led the October Revolution with Lenin.
Trotskyists are the true communists.
Trotskyists defend gay rights!
Q.
How would a workers government treat gays and lesbians?
A. In a Trotskyist government gays and lesbians
would have all the same rights as everyone else. Gays and lesbians would have the right to
marry. A Trotskyist government would
defend gays and lesbians against any and all forms of discrimination. A Trotskyist government would defend
homosexuals against gay bashing. Gays
would have the right to defend themselves with the second amendment against any
violent bigots. Once there were enough
violent homophobic bigots under the ground than I think society would get the
message. Don't mess with gays! Discrimination against gays in employment and
housing and education and everything else would not be tolerated. People who practice discrimination against
gays and lesbians would be punished.
Q.
That all sounds like a nice idea in theory but I don't expect there will be a
workers revolution tomorrow morning.
What do you propose in the meantime, I mean how do you further the cause
of gay equality in the meantime before this revolution?
A. In the meantime the gays and lesbians can
forget about the Democrats! The
Democrats don't give a damn about gay rights!
What we need is a workers party.
A workers party would be a third party alternative to the Democrats and
the Republicans. A workers party would
fight for the rights of human beings, as opposed to fighting for the rights of
animals like the Green party. A workers
party would fight for the rights of gays!
A workers party would fight for the rights of gays to marry and adopt
children. A workers party would do
whatever it could – whatever necessary – to defend gay men against these
cowardly attacks from violent homophobic bigots. A workers party would do everything it could
to educate working-class Americans that it is necessary to defend all workers –
including gay workers. A workers party
would fight against discrimination of gays in the workplace. A workers party would also fight against
discrimination against gays in housing and education and everything else. It's time for gays and lesbians to forget
about the Democrats. The Democrats are
no different than the Republicans. The
Democrats treat gays and lesbians like third class citizens! We need a workers party!
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